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Your Dog Doesn’t Listen when you don’t have treats?
Excellent, up beat video on how to get off the treat train.
Read my post for info on the Role of Rewards in training:
In the language of behavior training this is called “fading”.
Sudden stopping of a training reward can backfire and even result in anger.
Here’s an example most can relate to. Imagine you have worked the usual 40 hour week. You like your job well enough, but it is getting routine. It’s 4:30 PM on Friday & your Boss announces that no-one will be paid for the last day (or week) of work. You’d be mad. You’ve already worked for your pay and expect the promised rewards. This is how it works for dogs, especially, once they master a behavior and can do it well. They expect the reward to stay motivated. Suddenly, cutting off treats can reduce motivation by the dog for past learned behaviors and even future interest in learning. Why…, because the trainer just broke an “implied promise which reduces trust”. The promise “I do what you ask & I receive a food reward”.
Good trainers plan their training schedule from point of view of the dog. Knowing that dogs don’t do what we ask “because they love us”, just like our Kids. This is one of the universal “laws of learning” on the planet. All creatures are “designed to use behavior” to get what we need and want from their environment. People are particularly good at this skill. Even bacteria will move or grow in different directions based on what they find in the environment. Dogs need to benefit in some way to stay motivated. We use food because it is a powerful motivator for dogs, especially under 8 months of age. Like humans getting paid for a job, dogs will work for stuff other than food. Watch the video to see the first step to fading the food. Other rewards for dogs include: play, tug on toy, going for a walk, getting access to a favorite thing or place, attention, ear scratches, and often over-used phrase “Good Dog”. People love to be told “you have done a good job” so it works well for us. Not so much for dogs. Social rewards like being allowed to sniff other dogs butts is more inline with dogs value system.
Another way to replace the food treat as a reward is to immediately follow the food with something else, like an ear scratch, these are called secondary re-inforcers. Creating a secondary re-inforcers is a trick of metabolism. An event, person or object, that is paired with “something we really like”, gets the overflow of positive emotions which increases it pleasure in our subconscious. Think of movies and popcorn or hanging out with Grandma and cookies. This how the words “Good Dog” really work. But the timing must be fast and consistent for this to work well.
Here’s an example from my dog’s training. The dog is blind in one eye, so he hated the car because he experienced severe car sickness (vomited, diarrhea and peeing at the same time) as a puppy. After training him to sit in the car for food, with help of my husband, he was trained to ride in the car for food treats. I drove, my husband fave him bits of cheese. I didn’t want to have to give treats all the time while riding in the car, so I watched him to see what his favorite activity was, after leaving the car. He loved to great new people and gets lots of attention. So for one month, we went on one, short, car ride to the grocery store and asked people if willing, to pet the dog. Food treats during the car ride was replaced with food on arrival at a store. Then, slowly, I increased the time between arrival & treat to after he was out of the car, until he was out of the car and being petted by a new person. He loved it and now he leaps into the car, when I say “lets go for an adventure”. I replaced, food treats for riding in the car, with ,access to people/attention immediately after car rides. The dog added his own rewards to car rides when he noticed dogs or people on the side of the street. He barks, a favorite activity (which I ignore in this context), so that looking and barking became a natural reward. He stops barking when the dogs/people are out of site. The car ride is now self re-inforcing; because looking out the window became a secondary re-inforcer for barking. Barking was a natural reward for greeting people after the car ride, which replaced the beginning reward: the food treat. Rides are now rewarding for him whether he sees someone or not. I would have been happy to stop the training at the greeting people stage, but this is a good example of observing naturally occurring rewards and using them.
Next post I’ll talk about when naturally occurring rewards get in the way of training.
Happy training.
My dog/cat has arthritis. Which supplement is better: Glucosamines with Chondroitin or Fish oil?
Here is a link to a summary of a nice well done study on this question.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3150191/figure/fig3/
What is important to know about supplements with:
Glucosamine, Chondroitin or Omega Fats (Omega 3 Fatty acids)
1. With or without Chondroitin. Remember this; all animal source glucosamine (GA) supplements contain chondroitin sulfate (CS), whether listed on the label or not.
2. Dose. Studies comparing the glucosamines from cartilaginous fishes (shark, mussels, clams, shimp, crab) v.s. animals (cow, chicken, pig) all have the same beneficial effects when the dose of GA & CS is made the same. The amount of active ingredients in each gram of fish cartilage is much higher than animals. This means less powder needed if you use fish compared to animal cartilage. This explains why capsules from shark or green mussel work better than the same size capsule made of cow, chicken or pig cartilage. The same size capsule has more active ingredient when made from cartilaginous fishes.
3. New stuff- a plant based, synthesized form of glucosamine. A word about the soybean derived formulations of glucosamines. The available information comes from the company that makes the product. They claim that it works as well as other GA products. I read the studies & found a few problems. The product was tested on only a few animals (<12 dogs) for a few weeks and there was no control group. I could not conclude from their information that these products are equal to natural GAs. Publications that directly compare the soy v.s the cartilage based supplements are needed but haven’t been published yet. Since Cosequin(Soy based) is more expensive than most shark or green mussel nutriceuticals, I don’t recommend it at this time for dogs or cats.
4. Fish oil or Omega fats= Omega 3 fatty acids.
The high quality fish oils contain the omega 3 fatty acids that reduce inflammation. These are from Salmon, Mackerel, Cod Liver oil. Plant oil sources of Omega FAs like: Flax, Borage, Safflower that are converted to Omega3 FA by people, horses, cows are not metabolized by dogs or cats into a usable form of Omega 3 FA. Many carnivores lack the liver enzymes that covert these fats for use. So read the labels of all supplements to see if the Omega 3 FAs are all from fish sources.
5.One more important point to remember: Omega 3 Fats are not stable when heated . So dry/packaged treats or dog foods that are “fortified” with Omega 3 fats, and have been cooked, have destroyed the Omega fats, a waste of money. Fortified and other “catch words” are added to product labels to sell more product. If Omega 3 fats is not listed on the label in mg amount, chances are it is not high enough. Food companies are happy to list the exact amounts when they are using the good stuff. I find many will mix, <20% fish oil with 80%+ vegetable oils for cooking. Then just list the total omega fats. Most veggie sources have Omega 4, 6, 9 fatty acids. This example would be 20% Omega 3 and 80% Omega 4 & 6.
6. Omega 3 fats have a short shelf life, should be refrigerated, and never smell strongly fishy. Strong Fishy odor = fats that are spoiled. Belching of fishy taste/odor indicates the same problem, the product is spoiled. Enough spoiled or “rancid” fat can irritate the stomach.
I recommend Now® Brand of either Shark or Sea Mussel capsules and Shark powder when available. I have switched to the Veterinary prescription brands for fish oils because these are filtered and concentrated. Which removes the contaminates from the oil, such as pollution and heavy metals. Plus these are concentrated which makes the price of the Omega 3 FA, based on milligrams (mg) the same as the over the counter brands. If not available in your area look for a cold pressed Atlantic Wild Salmon oil, hopefully without flavors for dogs and cats.
Bimini. A new pet natural medicine in treat form. What is it and is it better that what I already give my dog.
A friend sent me a question. What do I think of a new pet chew called Bimini for
arthritis in dogs?
I looked it up. Contains fish oil, cat’s claw and aspirin (willow bark)
1. All versions of Salicylic acid are anti-inflammatory in dogs and cats.
However, dose & frequency is much smaller and they are more prone to adverse
side effects. Salicylic acid (SA) relieves pain quicker than glucosamines(GCAs
) but no better after 1 month on GCAs. Long term SA has serious side ffects
like GI ulcers, cartilage, liver and kidney damage.
2.Cat’s Claw, from South America, and Devil’s claw, from Africa, are related
anti-inflammatory herbs with a mix of anti-inflammatory chemicals. Must be
used carefully as there are side effects from the Cox1 and Cox2 enzymes within
each. Dog and cats are more sensitive to side effects than people or horses so
I like to use products where I know the dose as owners often use more than one
thing. This treat is like taking aspirin and Ibuprofen. The additive dose has
great pain relief and more risk for toxic side effects after a few weeks. All
effects are dose and frequency dependent.
When I use choose an herbal to replace an anti-inflammatory medicine, I choose
Noni ( made by Dr.s Best brand, dried leaves or roots) at 5-10 mg/lb dose to
start which can be slowly increased to 3 times beginning dose. I choice Noni
because at the effective doses there are no adverse side effects. Main draw
back is that it takes about 3 months to reach full physiologic effect, but
pain relief begin after 1 week and increase for 1 month.
3. Fish oil. Based on studies with arthritic dogs, Omega 3 FA from Fish oil,
where more effective at pain and inflammation relief compared to NSAIDs,
glucosamines, alone or with MSM. Doses of 350 – 750 mg O3 FA or 1000 -2000mg
of Fish oil.
Keep in mind that Omega3 FA from Fish oil assist the synovial cells to work
better to protect the joint. Also, other studies looked at the amount &
quality of Omega 3 in fortified dog foods or treats that are kibble or semi-
soft forms. Cooking of kibbles or storage of oil soaked semi-soft damaged the
FAs, oxidizing the FAs to an inactive form. Plus, most did not have enough
Omega 3 FA in them to have beneficial effect. Best diet source of FA is
dribbled on top of food just before feeding. Even the science diet & purina
arthritis diets, with FA sprayed over kibble right before packaging did not
have significant clinical effect.
There are many many (100s) herbal anti-inflammatories used for centuries as
medicine. Studies to objectively compare these herbs to one another have not
been done yet. So whether one is the best in not known. Evaluating the many
studies of anti-inflammatory herbs, they are dosed up to effect. Taking that
into account, I find the main ones are all similar in prevention of pain and
inflammation so the main differences are side effects, how easy to use, and
price of course. In general mixtures are almost always less effective when
compared to an effective dose of a single ingredient. These chews are likely
one ingredient, with a little of the other two ingredients and allot of flavor
filler to cover up the bad taste of either herb. Cat claw dose ~ $0.12 or
aspirin tabs $0.03 are much less expensive than these soft chews, either one
is enough. Fish oil purified concentrate is about $2/oz from a vet and dogs
love the taste. Big dogs need 1 tsp/day fish oil so that is 1/6th oz. So cats
claw + aspirin with fish oil added to food for 80 lb dog is $0.45/day.
Compare to price of $1.30 for a daily dose of Bimini for same size dog.After
one month they recommend every other day dosing which reduces price to $.65,
still more that the total of individual ingredients.
So there you go… a long answer. However all that said, it seems that
marketing trumps effectiveness, safety and price because these types of
supplements are selling in large numbers.
Alley Cat Allies – Best of the Best Educational Materials
Please check into this website before rescuing a cat from your neighborhood.
Access Educational Materials Most Requested Online and Used by our Feral Friends – Alley Cat Allies.
How to read food labels from the FDA & The Dog Food Project
Have you wondered what the information on the package of pet food really reveals. Check out this site at the Food and Drug Administration that details what our laws require (and does not require).
FDA – How to read pet food labels
FDA – special foods and treats
I personally like the Dog Food Project website which is generally accurate and has more information more about ingredients and quality in foods. Link: Dog Food Project
Diet Search website from the College of Veterinary Medicine, The Ohio State U.
This link can be used to find several diets on the market based on what your pet needs. It is intended to assist in your search for a diet. More important are many informative articles on the site. Look at the right boarder list for more information.
Diet Search :: The College of Veterinary Medicine at The Ohio State University.
Spring is here. Time to begin heartworm prevention, flea and tick control. Here is a useful link.
This is the best website to getup to date info on the prevalence of different parasites in the united states. The information is based on data from the “center for disease control”, the CDC. Future forecasts combine this data and weather reports that affect the population of parasites. “Look-up” Map are available for each parasite and by species. Also the many informative articles can help you determine how to handle parasite control for your pet. This is the information used by Vet.s to make recommendations to their clients.
The supermarket is becoming more confusing! This fact makes feeding our families quality and healthful food a challenge…..
I write allot about the petfoods & nutrition products for Cats and Dogs. Readers may already realize it is difficult to select good quality and healthful petfood for our pets. Well, the pet-care marketplace is confusing and becoming more so, as companies use more clever advertizing to increase sales.
Well Dr Lustig has tackled the same issue where it relates to human health and everyday food from supermarkets. This is a link to his articles is you do not want to read his new book called Fat Chance.
I highly recommend this website!!
perception, illusion and reality
Great talk about why we struggle to allow into our world, new information when, “we know what we know”.
Takes about 15 minutes to watch this video about how we and creatures map reality.
Applies to pet owners because many problem behaviors that happen in the average home are based on the principles revealed in this TED talk. Basically, our prior learning results in ideas and remembered brain images, about a subject within our world. These image-ideas can interfere with seeing what is really happening. Our brains are constantly editing out information that is in the environment, so that we only pay attention to what is judged important. This is a brain based shortcut for daily living. Obviously, we don’t take as long to do activities of daily life compared to when we first learned them. This is the result of editing out any information that is not important to the task. How does this interfere with learning as life goes on? We create a very detailed map of the world as we acquire experiences. This map is brought out of our memory as we go through our day. Visual maps, hearing maps, feeling and movement maps and even thinking and emotional maps. There is even an area of the brain dedicated to making us feel certain about our maps. Even though we know that maps are only a guide, as we gain repeated experiences we begin to feel certain that our personal map is the same as reality. This is how phobias are formed and knowing that repeating experiences creates a new map is also how phobias are treated effectively.
Hopefully by now, someone has taken a photo or video of you that demonstrates that what you remember can be very wrong. Yet we are stuck with feelings of certainty about how we see the reality around us. Luckily neuroscience is pointing out that each persons and each species only perceives a small portion of the world.
Let me explain how this applies to animal training. First, the experience of eye sight, hearing, feeling sensations, smells and second how this information is identified by the brain is very different between us and our animal companions. Many of the difficulties, that happen within human-animal households, can be traced to these facts. We do not see, feel, smell, hear, experience the same World. Modern pet training differs from, the older, so called “Leader of the Pack” beliefs, by applying what has been learned through 200 years scientific study of how animals really experience their world. More importantly, modern science applies the two principles: one – what can be measured can be improved and two – what we know today is just a map of reality so learning never ends.
It is essential to document training ideas, methods and results in ways that can be objectively measured. Renowned Innovators and Entrepreneurs know that accepted thinking gets in the way of discovery. They also know the importance of measuring results. So as you train your animals I suggest that we all; test ideas, document objectively, retest, retest and have someone else look over your methods and results.
Once one realizes that accepted ideas can get in the way of seeing reality this is the best we can do, for now…..
